The project of the house 147 sq.m from profiled beams

[bill]

Do not bother with the posts if the house is not just for finishing. Place the bar into the slots. When finishing just cut a jumper, finish it and put a T-shape post. Yes, the bar is removed, the jumper is sawn off, groove is in the place of jumper and than posts are put.

[buldozer]

Thank you very much!. Accepted!. Then I repeat the question, how much does it cost the work on cutting the groove under the bars and its installation?. If you imagine that you're not doing it at once by default

[bill]

The timber installation does not cost anything, but the cutting is estimatef from 5 to 10 thousand rubles, depending on the number of windows. You will have to closely work with a chisel!!. It was simpler to make a circular saw on the grooves on the ground.

[buldozer]

The price for all openings?. The brigadier proposes to do it with a chainsaw. There are 14 windows, 10 doorways and two arches.

[bill]

Where are the jumpers, you can to saw with a circular saw, so, use a chainsaw + manual finishing of the grove. With the 26 openings, I think, you will reach an agreement on the figure 15.
A consent, as is known, is a product of non-resistance on all sides.

[buldozer]

I kept the same number in mind, thank you very much!. The jumpers are needed only when you are assembling for a compliance of a geometry, or not just for this?. May be to facilitate the work of builders, by removing the jumpers and putting the bar for the whole length of the opening?. I continue the story of a house building. I was on the construction site during the day, in order to see how goes the construction of home. The brigade was released home on the Easter holidays, they promised to return on Monday evening. And on Easter Sunday the whole family was out of town, we stopped along the road we picked our mother-in-law and pather-in-law and went to the cottage, so that was our house at the entrance to the site. By entering the site we will be pleasantly surprised: boards that were used more for a formwork base, and then, as for the laying, were neatly stacked, a construction debris collected along the perimeter of a handful in their temporary shelter (an old house). The clean and tidy, clean latrines, kitchen utensils in the kitchen, washed and folded, where it usually was. While in the well of the house, on the ground everything was it was, well, it’was okay, because we came to clean up the area. The snow and the rain that marred the weather and got inside the house, turned into puddles with a sawdust and boards and a tape from PSULa and packs of cigarettes, generally was a construction waste. With the father-in law we made small holes, to flow the water into these pits and armed with a pump, we produced a drainage of the area, and then safely sorted the waste. The mother-in law treated her garden plants with a sawdust and their approaches, a sip from the timbers (by the way they were small) we put in the grill, their heat coals served us for a barbecue and vegetables on the grill, but the rest were put in the bag and into the container before the entering .
To that day the team has collected the house well, set the gables, cut off the protruding ends of PSUL and processed timber ends with a TEKNOS JRM to minimize the appearance of cracks, but they are already shared, but quite small. Meanwhile, the constant our neighbors with whom we have lived side by side for many years and have already moved and surprised with a look of our house with a touch of envy. Next, I invite you to review the different camera angles and views of the house. and the house is like not on the title page of my sketch of the project, but a real thing, what we went to what we wanted.

[buldozer]

And after working on Sundays, having loaded the remained bags with the construction waste, in order to unload them, leaving the CNT, we are all – a senior and a junior generation, stopped at the exit from the site, surveying eye of the house at a sunset, than we got in the car and went home. It remains to make a truss system with a temporary roof, rough floors, put the casing stones in the openings, to clean the timber from the transport traces and to cover the exterior and interior walls with the antiseptic called TEKNOS aquaground with the biocides number 353. As fixing the data events I will post small reports. Dear professionals in the construction of houses from the milled logs if you have some comments or suggestions for my construction, please, do not be silent, I am ready to listen to absolutely any comments and suggestions. Thank you in advance!.
Tell me, please whether I have to sew the bottom of the roof gables, in order a strong wind will not broke a roofing material, then, friends were called and said that a part of the roofing material was simply broken during the recent winds.

-Why do you have rough floors now?. I do not think that this house will be without communications!!?. You will be hard to do them if you have rough floors.

[Summer]

Why do you have rough floors now?. I do not think that this house will be without communications!!?. You will be hard to do them if you have rough floors.

[buldozer]

Here, yesterday I just scratched my head, when I swept the debris from the ground, in the well of the house. I wondered, and how they will dig and lay the engineering system, when there will be rough floors. It would be correct perhaps, to give up their from thier devices, or let them tie bars and cut boards, and when everything will be idone, then to put in place. Whai will you advise in that case, dear bill?. Tell me please, is everything fine with me on a construction site?. I'm just trying to compare your coverage with my building?.
Still, I repeat the question.
Then begs the following question: I have culled in the budget - a device for the beams for the 1 and 2 floor + a rough floor, respectively, in these lines there is a certain price, that's how I can break this amount as a percentage, not to pay twice for the sub-floor unit?. Tell me, please.

[bill]

From what I see, it looks good. How to break the price, I do not know, we have these works carried out separately. The installation work of beams is more complicated than a sub-floor. Divide the price tag in 1:3 and 2:3 (for example).
We have some temporary roofings also broken this year. I even wrote that the roofing material could come now not from Moscow area but it comes from China. Get a plenty of rails, partially close the openings not to flow so much below. And why do you have a rough floor on the 2nd floor?. I know that sometimes it is so on, but in this case there is no any sense. Especially, on the draft floor is commonly used the material which is not from the best quality. the "ceiling material serves as a rough floor (a siding, a timber simulation). Sometimes you have to align the beams of the ceiling, but for this purpose you can use the bar.

[buldozer]

Well, then really, the next question - is it possible to make the suspended ceiling in the timber house? .And how it will serve as in a flat or are there some nuances?.

[bill]

You have correctly understood. I believe that the rough floor and the ceiling is not something that is needed at the first stage, but even they are harmful. The floor does not give the land of a fine fresh air, and the ceiling violates the air circulation at the period of the house shrinkage.

[buldozer]

Then, tell me please, if it is possible to lay the pipes this summer for the future water supply, a sewerage, an electricity at home, and when we will begin finishing the following spring or summer, than to install in the house the water, the sewer and the electricity?. In what sequence should I act?. I am going this summer to put a new fence, so, let then dig a hole under a septic tank and lay the rings?.

[constructor]

the tubes can be laid at the stage of the foundation.
The electricity would be made when I finish, I do not like to leave the counter in the house without windows and doors.
Now make the necessary entries, and a wiring during the finishing of warming.

[buldozer]

Today came an expert to install a septic tank, he made all the necessary measurements, in the evening he has already sent an estimate for the septic tank unit. The selection was stopped at ABAC 25M. Today, the building team has finished the rafters system and raised everything on top, tomorrow I will fix the posts, make crates for a temporary roofing, I bought 20 rolls of roofing material, They will lay it far and wide for a strength to resist the wind, the rain and the snow. Here's a quick report.

Some elements of the wall were pulled by studs. And here are upgraded rafters. Ir passed almost a year as the workers had built me the object as a foundation under the house. A little work now: to tie the rafters, a temporary roofing, a partial finishing of dirt and stains on the bar, the covering of interior and exterior walls with the antiseptic. Weell we will see.
And this is the first construction phase is nearing the end. The foreman rang and told me the bad news – the timber, mostly upper crowns were covered by blue spots and it was necessary to vanish!. Having bought at the market “Sagus”, we went to the building site and immediately began to treat, the result was seen in 15-20 min.


At the same time work we were making the openings as for the casing stones. After drying the “Sagus”, the work on the wall presepvation by TEKNOS aquaground 353 has begun. And I made some picks of the truss system from the inside as they said. I would like to acknowledge a good work of means to protect the ends. The material balance around 5 cubes of 85 and about 10 of lumber.

Tonight, the foreman rang and told me good news that they did everything!. Tomorrow morning, I'll go to take the work and to make a final payment, we'll see or will be there any nuances?. Tomorrow, I will post out photos of the house and the territory nearby in the final variant at the end of Phase 1 of construction. And as I mentioned above, exactly one year ago was handed the foundation of the house, a year passed and there is a foundation of the house!. Sorry for the lyrics.

Thank you very much to all forum users for your desired tips that helped me a lot in construction. probably, the most difficult stage in a life of every person is the building of the first home!. I want to ask your opinion on those photos that I had posted what is worth paying attention to whether there are default of builders that I didn’t see, and probably I would not see, because this is my first house and I'm in euphoria!.

[Summer]

The house is very beautiful!. Congrats!!.

[expert]

To search for faults on the photos - it is a rotten deal.
I note just not a very friendly "sliding" fastening of the rafters. As a tip - all the loose ends at the arches must be blown down. On the pic, where are the "steps", it refers to triangular windows. They will shirink inevitably.

[bill]

And black dots - it may be wet sawdust from the sawn-off pieces of wood on top. I was told by my builders immediately after the departure that the first step was a removing of a sawdust!. they were falling on the walls and the floor below and it would come not a pleasant thing. I went for a week after work to remove the sawdust. Also I had some points, but they were also cleaned by “Sagus”. But you are more lucky, as the summer is ahead and more chances for drying, but I had a wet and cold winter on November.
Oh, and tell us about the lower attachment of rafters . Is it a kind of slide support, that eventually wil sag??. Twin rafters look very solid. How do you plan to insulate the gap between the rafters?/

[buldozer]

The same question was asked to a foreman, He said that that was not skide in pure form, when the home shrinks, then the place on the timber, which runs from the bar to the rafters will play a role of a slide, as I understood it so. Next year they will come for finishing, and we'll see what happens from this system, but about the arches, I will be doing a semi-circular arch during the finishing, he proposed me screws, and would'nt they interfere during the cutting under the arch?.

Well, yes, they told me the same, but about the bottom mount, I am certainly in doubt, to tell the truth I saw what I didn’t expect, but they said that they have fastened for five years, we'll see over time. And about double rafters there is an entire history. I was offered such system but the spans were too large. they wil insert the cut insulation in the gap, so they said they will finish after all.

[buldozer]

Jumpers are only needed under construction, so as not to leave the geometry during the assembly, at least so I was told so. And in fact, if you look the casing stones are probably better than without them. And about the mount, where as I understood it will not slide.

Then came a long awaited time for the building crew (the end phase of construction of the object and the sweetest is the final payment), and for us as customers!. I got up early to go to the country before the job and finally to pay with a construction team, at 7 am I was been already in the country, I looked everything again, walked around the perimeter of the house, both inside and outside, the debris was cleaned up, it was removed in bags, the lumber remaining in a place will be sorted later in the house, which was provided to them for housing, a latrine is clean and in general, everything is in order. They didn’t upset me at the end. I said to the foreman about the bolts, which I was told by bill. Having accepted the work, calculated, having positive emotions, I went for a work, and the foreman went to the market for the bolts. Later, he called me and reported on the work done, gathered all his belongings, and went home. He told me that they woul go to the object, which was built last year. That's positive achievement was in this end of the first stage of building our family nest. I post pics from this morning.

Tell me, please, should I furnish next year or supply windows, doors, roofing, the floors, the ceiling on the second floor, equipped with a boiler, will the house finally settle next year?.